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07.02.2020, 19:21   #851
 
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07.02.2020, 19:22   #852
 
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07.02.2020, 19:22   #853
 
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07.02.2020, 20:56   #854
 
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07.02.2020, 21:14   #855
 
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07.02.2020, 21:21   #856
 
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"I Think Peter Might Simply Not Be Good at This"
Sharleen Joynt on The Bachelor Episode 5

This season is officially getting me down. Its becoming hard to watch, not only because of how damn long it is (in no world should we be subjected to five hours of casual, mid-season The Bachelor in one week), but because this season is legitimately depressing. We all know The Bachelor viewing experience involves watching young, beautiful people saying and doing questionable things, but watching them behave so badly towards one another is icky and upsetting. Some of the behaviour were witnessing is becoming so impossibly poor that it almost feels like were watching a teen drama, not real life women. Whatever the opposite of a Women Supporting Women meme is, thats what last nights episode was.
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07.02.2020, 21:47   #857
 
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Yes, these ladies are in the contestant pressure cooker and everythings designed to keep tensions high. But whatever happened to taking a breath and counting to ten, to rising above superficial annoyances, to taking things in stride?

These lessons we were taught as children dont seem to exist anymore.
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07.02.2020, 22:05   #858
 
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When did it become OK to speak to each other with vitriol, to cavalierly throw others under the bus, to spark unfounded rumours about others, to scream at ANYONE to shut the f up?

Last season, I remember clutching my pearls when Caelynn said of Tayshia in an ITM, F that bitch. That stood out to me as one of the seasons lowest points, which makes it truly disheartening that it would fit right in at any point this season. If you dare, compare that to earlier seasons; Courtney Robertsons unabashed arrogance and Tiarra LiCausis infamous eyebrow now seem like the stuff of quaint nursery rhymes next to this fare. And its only Episode 5! Were getting extra hours jammed into the week because theres just that much of this to go around. It would seem were not watching season 24, but rather The Bachelor: Mean Girls Edition.
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08.02.2020, 19:59   #859
 
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I said on the blog last week that if Alayah left, thered be a new villain in town, a new woman to hate. I only wish I hadnt been quite so right about that. When Tammy first uttered Kelseys name to Peter during her 1-on-1 timetime with him still being something of a noveltymy heart sank. I was already struggling to root for more than a select few women in this cast, but Tammy had been holding firm a place in my heart. She was the cool girl whose relationship with Peter probably wasnt going anywhere, but whose witty quips and entertaining commentary made you want her to stick around. In terms of being uninvolved in house drama, she had a pristine record.
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08.02.2020, 21:05   #860
 
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I believe Tammys undoing was holding others to the same standards of emotional vulnerability she apparently holds for herself.

Just because youre not much of a crier doesnt mean others shouldnt cry, even a lot.
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08.02.2020, 21:23   #861
 
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I get that Kelseys waterworks were on a different level, enough to be a topic of conversation and even concern. However, someone elses emotions are simply one of those things you dont have a right to criticizeparticularly in this environment where each woman has a completely different experience on which those emotions are based. Remember, Kelsey had had a 1-on-1 date, so she was naturally going to feel more attached to Peter than someone who hadnt, which is most of the other women there. (I too had an Episode 4 1-on-1 date and had a tough time the following week, and I dont even think I felt that attached.) But more importantly, if a woman wants to spend her days filming this show crying incessantly, thats her prerogative. Sure, its an unfortunate and sad choice, but its really not anyone elses business. I get that it sucks from a coexistence perspective; it can put a major damper on the mood and sour the unique filming experience for others. But one must deal by either genuinely trying to help by comforting and supporting the crier, or simply turning a blind eye. Making assumptions about their drinking habits, drug habits and overall emotional stabilityon national television!no matter how annoying they may be is both not helpful and going way too far. Statements like this are drastic and dangerous; they can affect Kelseys real life, her personal relationships, her professional life. Once the seed about someones purported drinking problem is planted, its not easy to undo.

We hardly know anything about Kelsey, yet millions of viewers might now suspect she drinks too much. Was Tammys fleeting irritation with her really deserving of that kind of defamation and potentially longterm damage? I liken filming The Bachelor to a Las Vegas commercial: What happens there should stay there. You can be annoyed with someone based on that environment, but dont go bringing their real life habits into the equation, especially not while a cameras on you. It is no onesespecially not millions of Americansbusiness what prescription drugs Kelsey takes.
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12.02.2020, 04:47   #862
 
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That said, while I wish Tammy had taken better responsibility for some less-than-desirable actions this week, her clean record and popularity up to this point do make me trust her to some extent. I believed her when she said, All the girls feel the same way but they dont have the backbone to admit it.

I have no doubt that somewhere along the way, a gossip-y conversation about Kelseys habits was had, leading Tammy to feel supported in her aggravation with Kelsey. Those conversations likely involved the women Tammy later pointed specific fingers at. I am a firm believer in suspecting the common denominators in drama, and there have been a key few up to this point: Kelsey (in Champagne-gate), and Sydney and her friend group, namely Lexi and Victoria P (in the Alayah debacle). I strongly get the impression that Kelsey is the woman who isnt afraid to be the wet blanket in others once-in-a-lifetime experience (believable based on Champagne-gate). That behaviour can be frustrating but its not malicious.
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12.02.2020, 05:44   #863
 
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Meanwhile, given how Sydney and Lexi have had their hand in many heated scenes so far this season, its not a stretch to assume this posse is not comprised of the most understanding or benevolent women. The way Tammy and Sydneys confrontation culminated in a screaming match, with Sydney launching the first Shut the f up made my stomach turn. (Truthfully, I wanted to turn off my TV at that point.) I do wish Tammy had owned her actions better in the Kelsey saga, but at least with her you more or less know what youre getting. Sydney, with her under-the-radar, scathing judgments about other women, to her provokingly calling them fake, psycho, or crazy is downright terrifyingand particularly dismaying when you consider her own background with being bullied.
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12.02.2020, 06:04   #864
 
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If this is The Bachelor: Mean Girls Edition, Gretchen Wieners is played by Peter, an unwitting but efficient stirrer of the pot.

Its becoming a bit pitiful how well-intentioned he is in relation to how royally he continues to mess up. Hes like a puppy who triumphantly wags its tail at you for pooping in only ONE of your shoes. I dont say this often, but I think Peter might simply not be good at this. I dont mean hes a bad guy or even a bad Bachelorin my mind, a bad Bachelor means not knowing what you want in a partner or being insincere in your quest. Rather, Peters bad at BEING the Bachelor. This role requires a certain inner compass, a strong reliance on and trust in your gut. Peter denied being wishy-washy but his actions for weeks have betrayed that. The man wants to follow his heart but only if the object of his affections reputation in the house is squeaky clean. He thought he was making a strong statement by sending Alayah home, but he was really just kowtowing to the latest wave of drama.
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12.02.2020, 06:11   #865
 
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When Tammy spoke ill of Kelsey, you could see a difference in the way he looked at Kelsey, just as he did with Alayah when Sydney brought up her name. He chronically puts too much stock in what others say, rather than trusting his own opinions and interactions with them.
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12.02.2020, 06:21   #866
 
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This weeks big mistake (because there is a weekly mistake at this point): giving Kelsey a rose when she came to speak with him. There was simply no reason to do thisshe just wanted to nip the drinking rumour in the bud and had no intention or expectation of getting a rose. Kelsey even hesitated while receiving it, knowing full well its implications. While giving her that rose was sweet as a gesture, it was proof Peter doesnt think a few steps ahead. Of course this rose would cause a domino effect of issues.

Peter seems to live in the moment, in the now, with whomever hes talking to at that time. Its for this reason he gets so wrapped up in conflicting stories and runs back and forth between the women in questionthe person he believes is merely the person he spoke to most recently. Finally, this could all be avoided if Peter could put on the authoritarian hat just once in awhile. The lead sets the tone of his or her season, no one else. This was one of Hannah Browns greatest strengths, stamping out drama by laying down the law (something frankly necessary with a group like this). After all, its not like producers are going to do that for him; they are fuelling that very drama, not snuffing it.
On that note, the real Regina George of The Bachelor: Mean Girls Edition is most definitely the producers. There have been so many subtle but strong indicators that nothing happens naturally on this show anymore. I swear there was once a timea time not so long agowhen drama stemmed solely from clashing personalities. How sweet and simple that now seems. It seems every single thing is contrived nowadays: Of course the Rose Ceremony Cocktail Party would be cancelled after Kelsey had spoken to Peter and gotten a rose. Episode 5 Cocktail Parties are often cancelled, though, so of course Chris Harrison would reference Peter having found clarity that afternoon (precisely when Kelsey had visited him) in order for there to be a culprit in its cancellation.
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12.02.2020, 23:18   #867
 
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I have no doubt Mykenna, already an emotional wreck ready to crack, was coached and encouraged to tell Peter her something big at that very Cocktail Party. The conveniently placed decoy champagne bottle, the fact that Alayah could only return to clear her name during an already huge Group Date. Notice how in order for her to reach Peter she had to physically walk past the women. It feels like every move made is being puppeteered with shorter and shorter strings, when frankly, we dont need it. I often liken being on this show to being lab rats. Well, its not entertainment (and certainly not reality TV) to watch lab rats toyed with like chess pieces. Just let the lab rats just LIVE in that environment! Their natural behaviour will be far more interesting than any poking or prodding could provoke.
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13.02.2020, 00:27   #868
 
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My frontrunners based on this episode are

Madison, 23

Its a cruel twist that Madison, being such an obvious frontrunner, is shown so little because shes just that uninvolved in any drama. Im craving seeing a quality conversation between Madison and Peter, something more than another shot of their faces nuzzled together. Madison is definitely going very far, if not winning this whole thing, so her edit deserves somethinganything!that will do their eventual story justice.
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13.02.2020, 00:46   #869
 
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Sydney, 24

I have to admit I underestimated the physical chemistry between Sydney and Peter. Her 1-on-1 date certainly showed Sydneys softer side, something I think we all needed. Peter told Sydney some powerful things on their date, including that he sees in her the traits he wants in a wife, and that shes the best kisser. The best kisser always goes VERY far (remember Luke P!), so hopefully Sydney can separate herself from the drama moving forwardIm not sure how much more of this I can take.
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13.02.2020, 01:01   #870
 
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Hannah Ann, 23

Hannah Anns been on the quieter side lately, but she resurfaced to land the weeks sole Group Date rose. On a date with the likes of Madison, Kelsey, and both Victorias, this is no small feat. I continue to see Hannah Ann as finalist material, but still had to bump her due to Sydneys Best Kisser crowning.
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13.02.2020, 01:05   #871
 
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13.02.2020, 01:34   #872
 
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Victoria F, 26

I bumped Kelley and Victoria P from this list as its clear Peter has a major soft spot for Victoria F. He finds her both entertaining and adorablea very powerful combinationand he cant keep his hands off her. Im not sure I see the same level of comfort and understanding that I see with Madison, or the physical chemistry he shares with Sydney, but at this point Id be surprised if Victoria F doesnt get at least a Hometown date.
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13.02.2020, 05:58   #873
 
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From Sharleen's blog
Episodes 5

Oof. This week really made me think long and hard about how much longer I can write these. While these recaps are always quite a bit of work, I usually kind of enjoy it because theres so much I want to analyze and say. But right now my rehearsal schedule is nuts, which has meant spending every spare minute this week on this colossal recap. And its bad enough recapping 5 hours worth of this show, but when those 5 hours are loaded with such awful, non-feelgood material, its downright depleting.
Ill quit my bitching and moaning, but go easy on me if I didnt get to something you felt I should have.
This week was too much!

LAST WEEK, CONTD

Rewinding a 5 whole hours, were taken back to the Rose Ceremony where Alayahs still around and has in her possession that infamous Group Date rose. I had so many issues with this evening, it was tough to even know where to start. First, it bears repeating that what were shown is a mere slice of what actually occurs, so given how overwhelmingly long and painful this Cocktail Party felt, imagine how it mustve felt to have BEEN there.
Case in point, in the following two .GIFs, notice the womens magical seating switches (indicated by arrows), and imagine for a second being in that room, made to talk about this for so many hours that you could switch seats multiple times and the same conversation would still continue on.
The women are embroiled in yet another heated (and likely forced) Girl Chat, where Victoria F tells Alayah to stay in her lane, followed by what is now becoming a standard dose of profanity
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13.02.2020, 06:10   #874
 
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I know Victoria F wasnt the one who threw the first non-in-lane-staying stone (Sydney gets that honor), but I still find this statement extreme considering Victoria F is obviously in that same friend group as Sydney and those rules evidently dont apply across the board. (According to Victoria Fs logic, wouldnt Alayah then be well within her right to f-cking come for Sydney?) Further, its obvious Alayah wasnt coming at Victoria F by revealing the Chase information. Like I said last week, its plain as can be that she thought the Chase thing was common knowledge in the house. Further, just from a logical standpoint, why the hell would Alayah, after getting back on the show by the skin of her teeth, immediately start stirring things up? She would obviously try to lay on the low side, hoping to just get by and stay out of everyones line of fire. If the other women focused less on automatically despising her and everything she does, they might realize that. But, of course, they cant not focus on her, because whenever they might try to seek a distraction, the topic of conversation inevitably will be brought back to her.
Case in point, notice the womens reactions, namely Lexis, when Peter comes to take Alayah for yet another chat

Lexis frustration speaks to the hours upon hours of talking about Alayah, to Alayah, about Alayah and Peters relationship, Alayahs rose, whether or not Alayahs there for the Wrong Reasons. You can see how the circumstances would cause someone like Alayah be perceived as so much more of a villain than she actually is, based on the fact that her presencenot anything shes actually doingmakes everything about her and causes the women to sit there, having their time wasted for so many hours, days, weeks.
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14.02.2020, 09:00   #875
 
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If youre expecting me to go easier on Peter in this recap, youre sorely mistaken. I continue to take issue with so, SO many of his choices. Exhibit A: The fact that Peter even sends Alayah home here. His argument for bringing Alayah back was that he didnt want to listen to other womens opinions and be influenced by them anymore, yet by sending Alayah home two days later, he re-makes his original mistake. He never spent any time with her in between, never exploring the very connection he felt inspired to re-pursue at the Group Date. I get that he partially made sending her home about how hard the other womens hate was for her, but that should have been HER decision to make, not hisespecially given it was the way in which he brought her back (that godforsaken Group Date rose) that made things extra hard on her in the first place.

Exhibit B: The fact that Alayah apologies to Peter (ugh!) and HE DOESNT APOLOGIZE BACK
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