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24.06.2019, 19:27   #626
 
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24.06.2019, 19:32   #628
 
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24.06.2019, 19:33   #629
 
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24.06.2019, 19:42   #630
 
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24.06.2019, 20:59   #631
 
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24.06.2019, 21:00   #632
 
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24.06.2019, 21:02   #633
 
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24.06.2019, 21:07   #634
 
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24.06.2019, 21:08   #635
 
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25.06.2019, 22:55   #636
 
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Episode 6

Honestly, I wasnt planning on recapping this episode. I thought I might just take the week off. But then I realized there were some things I did want to point out, and when I got started, I just couldnt stop. Next thing I knew, I had a near-full recap of a not-full episode. Whoops!

Cheers to being comfortable in sharing the uncomfortable.
Hannah, concisely identifying whats expected of anyone on this show

LAST WEEK, CONTD

Picking up where last week left off, while Luke is changing Hannahs mind about sending him home, we hear the guys back at their hotel (castle?) discussing him. Here, Garrett reveals how poorly he knows this show

Trust me, if Luke were gone, or even if he never existed on this season, itd be someone else. Peace and quiet doesnt exist as a contestant on this show!
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25.06.2019, 22:58   #637
 
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Another thing worth pointing out is the general body language (and dress) during this Man Chat

Its obvious that, in addition to being forced to discuss Luke ad nauseam, the guys are being KEPT AWAKEmost likely to get their reactions to Lukes return home. It could be midnight (unlikely), it could be 2am, it could easily be much later. But morning ITMs wait for no one. Just a reminder that Luke himself may be an 8/10 on the irritation scale, but the Bachelor bubble circumstances can quickly and easily turn him into a 10/10.
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25.06.2019, 23:02   #638
 
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COCKTAIL PARTY

At the Cocktail Party, after Hannahs toast about opening up to each other, Garrett pulls her aside first and naturally uses his precious minutes to catch Luke in a lie. He then promptly reports the findings to the men. First, Garrett reminds me of some guys from seasons past who became so obsessed with needling or putting the villain in his place that hes ended up in his own sort of villain role. (Im particularly thinking of David vs Jordan from last season.) I do give credit where credit is due in that Garrett does later apologize and take responsibility for his actions here. Also, I am NOT suggesting Garrett is anywhere near as bad as David was! I actually really like Garrett.
HOWEVER, I still had to capture the SMILES in the room as he first confronts Luke. Note Mikes ear-to-ear grin, followed by the unfazed reactions of both Dylan and Devin

Its clear from these reactions that its not about Hannahyou can tell none of them seem worried or even perturbed that Luke spoke about them to her. I mention this mainly to point out how unnecessary Garretts actions here were. The guys respect Luke too little to be genuinely concerned about him sullying their names to Hannah, making this whole conversation solely about catching Luke red-handed in another lie and the satisfaction in that.
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25.06.2019, 23:14   #639
 
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Of course, I had to capture Hannahs death glare and zip it gesture she gave Luke as he rambled in circles

A few of you have mentioned Chris Harrison revealing in an interview that what bonded Hannah and Luke in the first place was their faith. (Thank you! I love it when you guys tell me whats up in the Bachelor world.) This is a very interesting puzzle piece. Indeed, Hannah does seem to hold out for, protect, and yes, defend Luke more than the other guys, and in a way that transcends the amount of time theyve had together. To me, although the above is clearly meant coldly, it shows an insane level of familiarity. With the other guys, everything still feels relatively new and getting-to-know-you. Its hard to even imagine her catching the eye of another guy like this and silently communicating something to him, much less something critical. Above all, its yet another example of her protecting Luke; shes once again teaching him how to behave, when frankly, if another guy committed half the crimes Luke has, hed likely already have been sent home.
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26.06.2019, 01:19   #640
 
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Hannah hears the drama ensuing amongst the men and then enterstwiceto lay down the law. I discussed this in my Flare recap so Ill resist repeating myself too much here. But in general, while I sometimes soften my stance in the time between Flare and my Pretty Pandas recap, my thoughts have not changed here. I enjoyed Hannah here from a rah-rah, You Go Girl perspective, in that she was taking control of rumors and assertively setting a record straight that she didnt have to. Also, for the record, I am clearly a GINORMOUS Hannah fan and think shes a terrific lead.
Nonetheless, I maintain what I said over at Flare: I dont think berating the men for fighting is her battle to pick. It cannot be overemphasized that, no matter how well Hannah knows Luke (faith or no faith), it does not compare to how well the guys do, simply from having lived with him for weeks. (And were not talking roommatesmore like prison mates. They have been trapped together with no escape.) It really is the difference between someones best behavior (being on with Hannah) and their very worst behavior. I say worst intentionallythe show does bring out the worst in you, just as I suspect its bringing out the worst in Luke.

Hannahs argument here is about the guys warning her about Luke, and how she doesnt need their warnings and can figure things out for herself. I have a few issues with this. First, every lead, including Hannah, welcomes dirt on contestants; they recognize they dont know the contestant as well as fellow housemates do. Hell, Colton did this with Hannah on his season, when she first talked about Caelynn. Have you ever heard a lead say, No, I dont want to know? (I didnt think so.) Therefore, Hannahs sudden anger about the very thing she normally (and recently) welcomed feels both hypocritical and like an defensive overreaction.
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26.06.2019, 02:15   #641
 
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Second, while I get that warning the lead about a contestant is the proper template one should use when complaining about someone, lets be honest: The guys beef is not with Luke in relation to Hannah. The extent it relates to Hannah is that shes the one with the power to make him go away. I dont think any of them truly believe shell pick him. (In fact, given how many references there have been to the guys respecting her and her intelligence, it seems impossible they truly think shell choose Luke.) The guys annoyance is with Lukes endless web of lies, having to live day in and day out with someone they cant stand, and having to talk about him several times a day.
Therefore, I find the following statement to be moot

We are SO past Hannah giving Luke the benefit of the doubt. The above IS in Lukes defense to the extent that its in her defense for keeping him. Shes tolerating behavior in him she wouldnt tolerate in someone else, and is defending that tolerance. And its in that sense that I think Hannah is picking a battle that isnt hers. In the context I outlined above, where the guys beef with Luke has nothing to do with her, she wouldnt have to be defensive. But shes treading into territory that isnt herswhat it really feels like to live and deal with the "worst version of Lukeand asserting her dominance there. And, in my humble opinion, shes doing it because she feels the need to defend herself.

As I said over at Flare, I think any leadall of whom have been contestants and therefore been forced to live with people they despisehas to recognize the ripple effect of keeping the villain around. The ripple effect is conflict in the house. It is natural. Its people coexisting in an environment designed for discord. It is not a wrong the lead needs to right.
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26.06.2019, 02:18   #642
 
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ROSE CEREMONY

I dont normally point out things like this, but it just so happens that the way Grant hugged Hannah goodbye is a huge peeve of mine, so poor Grant is going to be made an example of

UGH. NO. Men: rubbing a womans ribcage even remotely close to her side boob is not an appropriate physical interactionnot in any setting, but especially when shes just expressed a lack of romantic interest in you. I always get the heebie-jeebies when men do this, sort of like when they think its OK to rub your lower back really low. No, no, no, no, no.
And just for the record, Im a Grant fan. Ive very much enjoyed his regular-guy vibes and funny expressions all season. And perhaps he really just didnt know what to do with his hands in the above moment, like maybe hugging her felt inappropriate? I dont know All I know is that I hate it when men do this and am making it known here!
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26.06.2019, 03:40   #643
 
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LATVIA

The show heads to Riga, Latvia, but before we get to feel excited about a new country, it becomes apparent Hannahs still not over Scotlands Rose Ceremony. Here, we get a rather frustrating chat between her and Chris Harrison.
Now, I dont mean to suddenly sound all critical of Hannah. Its just this is the first week I havent really understood her actions and mindset. (Its actually kind of impressive on her part I havent said one critical thing about her until now, halfway into the season!) I found this conversation frustrating in that it really shone a light on Hannahs defeatist attitude. Even if she never considered throwing in the towel (which, lets be honest, she didnt), its the tone of the conversation surrounding that sentiment that bugged me. In general, it was a lot of sweeping statements about ALL the men not knowing her, and her suddenly doubting the entire process. Like, seriously? Because a handful of guys were heard arguing? I realize there are possibly bits and pieces left on the editing room floor, but in terms of what we were shown, Hannahs suddenly hopeless outlook really came out of left field.
What irked me the most was this

Now, I WHOLEHEARTEDLY agree with the words themselves. I happen to loathe when people dont ask questions. Its not about wanting to talk about myself, its about reciprocation. Its that us as people, socially speaking, are all in it together. I also relate to Hannah in that I, too, am not the type to volunteer information; I have to feel invited to, not like Im forcing things. So yes, I absolutely LOVE the above sentiment unto itself.
However, contextually, it made no sense to me. Hannah had literally JUST cancelled the Cocktail Party because of the house drama. That was HOURS worth of conversation with the guys, gone just like that. The last Rose Ceremony Cocktail Party (plus the Group Date Cocktail Party before that) werent so different in that she spent a lot of it going back and forth between the two Lukes, deciphering who was telling the truth. It just felt like a major leap to suddenly have lost so much faith in the men, based on limited interactions which she was the one to limit in the first place.
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26.06.2019, 04:04   #644
 
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RECAP

I, like many of you, was NOT a fan of this episode. Did anyone really think this mansion recap was actually filmed in real time, as though they flew Hannah from Latvia to LA to talk about whether or not shed quit the show? Puh-lease. Hearing Hannah and Chris Harrison speak in the present tense about events that were clearly way in the past was just patronizing. Recap episodes are a cop-out, so IF youre going to do it, you better as hell make it interesting and bring to the table something we didnt already have.
Strangely, the only thing to come of nearly an hours worth of recapping was the fact that on Night One, it would appear Marcus, Hannahs zit, was blurred out! Think Im crazy? Look at Exhibit A. I took this from Episode 1, during Hannahs shutdown of Scott
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26.06.2019, 04:08   #645
 
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Now look at Exhibit B, taken from Episode 6s recap of the same moment

It actually doesnt surprise me that they edit out certain things. (Ive mentioned before that my own side boob was edited out with TWO different outfits. Also, I myself had a monstrous cheek zit during my first 1-on-1 in Seoul and remember it being mysteriously invisible when I watched it back on TV.) I would just think theyd use the same, edited footage if recapping!
As an aside, its funny to imagine editors blurring out zits on contestants they ultimately give terrible edits to. (I just made myself laugh out loud thinking about this!) Who cares about how millions of people perceive a person as long as she LOOKS good, right??
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26.06.2019, 04:10   #646
 
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Finally, I just had to capture the moment when Chris Harrison, a man who is easily old enough to be Hannahs dad, asked her

Chris Harrison always cracks me up. Whenever you watch him through the lens of knowing he knows how ridiculous this show is, it makes everything he says and does hilarious.
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27.06.2019, 19:51   #647
 
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27.06.2019, 21:16   #648
 
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28.06.2019, 03:03   #649
 
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"Hannah Recognizes His Worth": Sharleen Joynt on The Bachelorette
Episode Seven

I have a running joke with my parents: each time we Skype each other, I kid that every time is like the first time. I love them dearly and they are both highly intelligent, but whether its the audio or the video or just general connectivityno matter how many times Ive troubleshot with themits always a struggle to figure out. Its simply a language they dont speak, and at this point, the difficulty is so predictable that it has become reliable. In my silly metaphor, Hannah is to my parents as Luke P. is to a virus-laden version of Skype. Hannah is smart and perceptive, yet dealing with Luke P. is like trying to communicate in a foreign language. After hours of troubleshootinga.k.a. endless excuses and defensivenessLuke P. finally functions as hes meant to, eventually conceding, apologizing, admitting fault. However, you just know hes going to revert back to his same old ways directly afterwards. He doesnt learn any actual lessons, so he never evolves or even improves. Instead of building on progress, he resets every time. My comparison of Luke P. to a piece of compromised software is intentionalhis reactions and responses really are that predictable. Reliably predictable.
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28.06.2019, 03:13   #650
 
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What is particularly scary is that, as I touched on about Scott way back in Episode 1, this is Luke P. on his best behaviour. Take a second to let that soak in. He often seems like hes about to throw in the towel, to punish Hannah by withdrawing his attention and affection, the way narcissists tend to. But then he seems to remember that in the unique scenario of The Bachelorette, its Hannah who wields all the power, so he back pedals, admitting he was wrong and committing to trying harder.
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