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Старый 23.02.2018, 01:44   #1176
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2. Becca, 26:
You know what I like about Becca and Arie? So much of their relationship feels like a given. Like, it felt like a given that they’d have a swimmingly good time at an apple orchard (those caramel apples…. oh my). It felt like a given that, despite her family’s skepticism before meeting Arie, they’d come around upon meeting him and hearing how happy Becca was. It felt like a given that last week, on their second 1-on-1, they’d leap forward once again as arguably the most rock-solid relationship there. It even felt like a given that Arie would give Becca a rose this week, and first, no less. (As with last week!) This relationship feels like the most natural out of the remaining ones, in terms of us watching them be comfortable and normal and convincing as a potential husband and wife together. (Obviously this is easier to watch and pick up on than them being similar human beings who can read each other’s minds, à la Lauren.) I do like this relationship, but I’m still getting more zest from Arie regarding Lauren, and that’s what has me keeping this order this week.
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Going home next week…

3. Kendall, 26:
I can admit it: I was SHOCKED Arie sent Tia home over Kendall (although when he pulled Kendall aside at the Rose Ceremony I (rightfully) began doubting my predictions in a serious way). I confess I’m thrown off here because Andy, who openly relates to Arie and deems him the most similar to him out of all Bachelors (out of the ones that he’s seen, anyway, which is like four), sees Arie choosing Kendall. And I can’t emphasize enough that I, too, adore Kendall. I would love to have a coffee with her (and her sister, too, while we’re at it) and just talk about all our feelings. Beyond being delightfully quirky and relatably different, I feel like Kendall is a phenomenal listener and thinker. However, I just can’t get past the math: Lauren, two 1-on-1 dates, Paris and Tuscany. Becca, two 1-on-1 dates, L.A. and Tuscany. Not only does Arie simply know them each WAY better than Kendall based on all that 1-on-1 date QT, but he must’ve been more intrigued by and invested in them to have bestowed them with those dates in the first place. Meanwhile, poor Kendall has only gotten ONE date, which doesn’t even count as a date because she was pitted against Krystal on a 2-on-1. I know that Arie kept Kendall over Tia, the recipient of one 1-on-1 date, and recognize that that defies my way-too-serious logic about this show. But for her to bypass either Lauren or Becca is some next-level shit, the kind of dark horse-ry that occurs only on the most revelationary of Fantasy Suite dates. I’m not saying it’s impossible. But it’s unlikely. I’d be happy to be proven wrong.
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Старый 24.02.2018, 07:49   #1178
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ARIE FACES THE WOMEN HE REJECTED, SPARKS FLY AND THE CLAWS COME OUT, ON ‘THE BACHELOR: THE WOMEN TELL ALL,’

SUNDAY, FEB. 25, ON ABC

John Cena, Leslie Mann and Ike Barinholtz, the Stars of the Universal Pictures’ ‘Blockers,’ Make an Appearance

Bekah M., Bibiana, Chelsea, Jacqueline, Krystal, Seinne and Tia Are Among the Provocative 18 Bachelorettes to Return
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Старый 24.02.2018, 08:15   #1179
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“The Bachelor: The Women Tell All” – Arie Luyendyk Jr.’s search for love has taken him from Los Angeles to Peru. Along the way there have been highs and lows – and then there was Krystal, one of the most controversial bachelorettes of the group. Now, 18 of the most unforgettable women this season are back to confront Arie and tell their side of the story and how difficult it was to date a Bachelor who was falling for multiple women.
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Bekah M. and Tia face off in an intense conversation.

Bekah M. expresses her feelings of betrayal, as Tia was the only woman who felt the need to go to Arie about her being so young. Bekah M. also accuses Tia of being the one lacking real relationship experience – not her.
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Старый 24.02.2018, 08:42   #1181
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And Chris Harrison gets to the real story behind Bekah M. being listed as a missing person. What does her mom have to say about her headline-making “disappearance?”
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Krystal attempts to defend her behavior, but a never- seen clip from the bowling alley date reveals her calling out the women and Arie with shocking words.

Krystal takes the hot seat and the other women immediately attack her. And then, in a never-aired clip from the bowling date, Krystal is revealed in a very unflattering light. Her stunning bombshell description of the women and Arie leave the women reeling. But in an emotional moment, Krystal breaks down when talking about her homeless brother.
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Seinne attempts to explain why her relationship with Arie fell apart and how she hopes to be an example to women like her who aspire to their own happy ending.
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Tia, the woman sent home after the hometown dates, tearfully talks about her gut-wrenching exit and how Arie blindsided her.
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Arie takes the hot seat and the tension is palpable.
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Старый 24.02.2018, 09:04   #1186
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Caroline confronts him and questions his commitment issues.
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Krystal seeks more closure from Arie, but he seems pretty happy with how he ended their time together.
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John Cena, Leslie Mann and Ike Barinholtz, the stars of the Universal Pictures’ “Blockers” appear on the couch to share their favorite “blocker” moments from Arie’s season of “The Bachelor.”

Viewers then get a look at the most hilarious bloopers from the season, along with some of the most memorable moments in “The Bachelor: The Women Tell All” history. Take a sneak peek at the incredibly emotional final weeks of Arie’s journey, starting with his overnight dates in Peru with Becca K., Kendall and Lauren B. Arie finds himself falling in love with multiple women. What obstacles lie in the way of him finding the love of his life?
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Старый 24.02.2018, 22:12   #1190
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Episode 8

“I’m trying to face walls I didn’t know existed and it’s hard to find them if you don’t know where they are.”
—Kendall

KENDALL'S HOMETOWN
Hometown week kicks off in LA with Kendall. Surprising nobody, this date revolves around taxidermy, but what I found really interesting here is how the TONE is so different from seasons past. To me, Kendall represents that contestant who could be seen as a caricature, who is painted as weirder than most and who could easily be made out to be someone you'd laugh at or deem "crazy". But because she also has a lot of depth and intelligence (and is SHOWN possessing these traits), it prevents that negative edit.

Perhaps my favorite thing about Kendall is how "in" on all the funny stuff she is. Like, obviously she probably has interests beyond taxidermy, but she's a really good sport about allowing her Hometown to be about this. For example, when they entered this warehouse, she said, "Welcome to Taxidermy room." (She didn't describe it as HER taxidermy room.) In the way she announces that she and Arie will be mounting (apparently that's the term) taxidermy of their own, you can tell by her laugh and stutter that she fully realizes this is hilarious (aka, she's not taking it or herself too seriously)... Oh, also, don't miss the split-second Direct-Look-Into-Camera™...
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Старый 24.02.2018, 22:21   #1191
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I laughed out loud at two of Arie's reactions to this activity, starting with when he first saw the rat, er, carcasses (is that the correct term for a pre-taxidermy-mounting rat's body?)...
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... and again when he was attempting to stuff (fill?) his rat and his expression made it clear he knew he wasn't a natural at this...
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In the evening, after her family time (I just loved her sister!), Kendall revealed she could see herself falling for Arie. This moment was adorable (never mind my gripes with the concept of "falling", as I bemoaned from my Flare soapbox), just in that she was so endearingly uncomfortable talking about her feelings, to the point where she basically fell into a kiss following this confession...

I have a bit of an issue with the pacing of Kendall and Arie's relationship, but it's 100% on him and the show and not on her at all. At this week's Rose Ceremony, it did feel like there was some pressure on Kendall to feel "ready", but THE GIRL HASN'T EVEN GOTTEN A 1-ON-1 DATE FOR GOD'S SAKE. Technically, this Hometown date was her first 1-on-1. I think given that, she is able to feel for Arie (and express those feelings) at a completely reasonable rate. Like, sure, you could argue she's opening up slower and "falling" at a slower rate, but in my humble opinion, her rate of developing and expressing affection for Arie is 100% proportionate to the validation she's been given so far.
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TIA'S HOMETOWN

Arie greets Tia in Weiner, AR and immediately gives a pretty good Direct-Look-Into-Camera™ of his own...
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I laughed SO hard when Tia's dad, Kenny, proposed a toast and got Arie's name hilariously wrong (both Arie's and Tia's reactions here were also fantastic). I think the funniest part might be Kenny's earnestness. Like, he stumbled a bit, and you can see in his eyes that he's not 100% sure on the pronunciation, but he just goes for it anyway. It's SO good...
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I also delighted in Arie's very sincere-feeling response to Kenny's (reasonable) assumption that having a bunch of women to choose from would be a pretty fun time...
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There are many things I love about watching Tia (I love her transparency and her potty mouth, for example), but I've decided it's moments like this that take the cake...

We can SEE her hear herself say that and her groan and head shake afterwards just confirm that no one is more aware of how ridiculous those words sound coming out of her than she is. It's this self-awareness that is very compelling; when a contestant says he or she is completely in love with the lead on this show, with zero irony, I find myself skeptical. Like, 35 seasons in, how can you NOT have any irony when making that confession? Meanwhile, because Tia is so obviously self-aware in saying this, I find myself taking her words—and her judgment in falling in love in the first place—more seriously.
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BECCA'S HOMETOWN

I mentioned on The Morning After that on Tia's Hometown I'd hoped for a follow-up of their Episode 5 religion discussion, but instead, we got it here on Becca's date. Things like this...

... drive me CRAZY. Like, it's bad enough for a conversation about religion—a major real-life topic and a potential deal-breaker in any romantic relationship—to have occurred and not been shown. But even worse is to have not shown it yet have it referenced later on, on a Hometown date. Had it been shown in the first place, it would be an appropriately recurring theme. Let's be honest: if this were a real-life relationship and the two parties were not on the same page about religion, it would be a recurring theme.

In the comments for Episode 5, religion was a bit of a hot topic and I have to agree on what a lot of you expressed: I do think the essence of exchanges like the above one are very dismissive of what a big issue this could be down the road. (In Episode 5, it was how Tia was supposedly perfectly open to marrying someone who didn't share her faith, despite growing up in the church and it being a huge part of her life.) I get the desire to not make a big deal out of it, and how in the Bachelor bubble it might pale in terms of importance next to how "amazing" your connection seems. But the fact of the matter is, this can and will be a problem. I for one don't see a 36-year old suddenly embracing and immersing himself in an organized religion after a life of NOT, regardless of what his wife-to-be believes. In this relationship's case, I'm not saying Arie is lying through his teeth and that he wouldn't be supportive of Becca's faith and wouldn't accompany her to church. I believe he would be and do those things. But I do think to sum it up with "I'm open to it", while totally audience-appropriate (he obviously wasn't going to tell Uncle Gary, a pastor, otherwise) and reality TV-appropriate (I sadly don't see this show ever delving deeper into conflicting opinions on this topic further than this), is both insufficient in terms of the weight of the topic and believability (as in, I question how "open to it" he really is).
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Moving on! I tend to be really drawn to a particular parent (or sibling) during Hometown week, and this season it was Becca's mother, Jill. Remember, when we saw Becca's family talk about Becca before she and Arie arrived, the gist was that there was no way Becca would be in love with this guy, that she'd be "cautiously optimistic at most", and she's pragmatic. So, given that assessment, just watch Jill listen to her daughter talk about her feelings for Arie. She is taking it ALL in and, while not overly emotional, is fully taking stock...
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To me, Jill seems like an excellent mother. She strikes me as intelligent, astute, yet warm. I feel like nothing would escape this woman. I actually laughed when Arie suggested she ask any "hard" questions she may have, and she practically tripped over saying "OK" to take him up on that...

I think what really speaks to me about Becca's mother is that she's not confusing being cautious with being cold. You can be a protective parent on this show and not be frosty. So many parents see the Bachelor/ette as the enemy, as someone to crack or figure out or intimidate, or to protect their child from. Even Jill's "hard" question ("When you look at your life, your experience, think of committed, loving relationships that you admire. What in those relationships do you think makes them work?") is more about what Arie notices and values, which says so much more about him as a person than him explaining why he's not a "playboy" or defending still having 3 other "girlfriends". Above all, I like how, at the end of this conversation, Jill could say to his face, "I really like you." I don't think people express this sort of sentiment enough (when it's honest, anyway). I already really liked Becca, so it made sense that her mother was so delightful.
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