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Старый 16.06.2017, 00:16   #326
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ANTHONY'S 1-ON-1

I have nothing bad to say about Anthony. He seems smart, he's drama free, and appears to be very sincere. But mark my words, Anthony is not going to the end this season. First, we weren't even shown his Date Card segment. No arrival of, reading of, or reaction to a first 1-on-1 Date Card? This almost never happens...
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Старый 16.06.2017, 00:28   #327
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Next, the whole date felt super glossed over. It was basically a few Rodeo Drive boutiques that were willing to let horses in their shops and that had made some arrangement to get on TV. And then in the evening, the only conversation shown was Anthony describing being rich in love growing up, and having had a good father and wanting to pay that forward. Their interaction was sweet but unremarkable and on the whole even felt sloppily edited. For example, what the hell did Rachel pull out of her pocket here...?

*** UPDATE 06.10.17: Taylor informed me that Rachel is pulling out a hand warmer to share with Anthony. That is helpful, but even with the hand warmer, my argument that this was glossed over remains!
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Старый 16.06.2017, 02:07   #328
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Second, and this was hard to capture as a .GIF and without sound, but Anthony's sentence about losing control didn't even come out of his mouth, but rather as he was shown licking his lips....

Also note how Rachel says "I like you, too". I don't think those words are insincere, but I'm not getting "I can see myself marrying you" vibes in the slightest.

My point is, this 1-on-1 felt like the red-headed stepchild of this episode and was neglected on many levels particularly in the editing room) and, while I like Anthony, he will not be the future Mr. Lindsay.
(совершенно согласна, для меня совершенно никакое свидание!)
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Старый 16.06.2017, 02:48   #329
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After Anthony returns to the mansion, the drama with Eric begins. I'm going to state straight-up that I don't think Eric was in the wrong whatsoever. First, it's annoying as hell when an uninvited party crashes a conversation to tell you that you're wrong. I get that Iggy wanted to defend Rachel, but it wasn't necessary, especially since one of the people in said conversation was Anthony, who just spent the whole day with her and certainly knew her better than Iggy. (My point being, if anyone needed to defend Rachel, it'd be Anthony, which he didn't, because Eric wasn't attacking her!) Second, if you consider what Eric is actually saying, you realize he's 100% right...

Okay, so it's heresy to merely suggest that the lead is phoning it in with any of his or her contestants, but - DUH - of course they all are with at least 80% or so of them. It would be both impossible and a total waste of energy to attempt to give two dozen suitors the same kind of attention. Every lead has to pretend they're into more people than they are and that's just the nature of the show. Juan Pablo got a lot of shit for not showing enough interest in the women he wasn't interested in (yes, you read that right), but is that not the most authentic way to be the lead? And wouldn't you want to know where you stand rather than be patronized and led on right up until the rug is pulled out from under you? The fact that Eric's voicing these concerns only makes me like Rachel more because it means she's not leading anyone on unnecessarily. Iggy's "defense" of Rachel was pointless (not to mention inaccurate), and given that he later told her he defended her, ultimately felt like a grandiose gesture with which to earn brownie points.
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Старый 16.06.2017, 03:14   #330
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SECOND GROUP DATE

Nothing really to add here about this (highly entertaining) mud wrestling date that I didn't address in my The Morning After video. Except to point out that, when covered head-to-toe in mud, Kenny is a dead ringer for The Thing...
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Старый 16.06.2017, 04:34   #331
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I had to make a .GIF of how deeply irritating Lee's personality type is. First, his "I'm being straightforward" reminded me of a tweet I recently liked. Also, I loved how wonderfully and exasperatedly Eric responds with a simple, truly straightforward, "I'm so confused!"

Like I said at Flare, if you're going to target or confront someone, fine. But don't flank your passive aggressive statements with "I love you"s. Is there anything worse than "I love you, but—", or "I'm sorry, but—"? UGH.
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Старый 16.06.2017, 05:11   #332
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And as if the UGHs could not be any more emphatic...
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Старый 16.06.2017, 06:46   #333
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ROSE CEREMONY

Iggy, "maddened" by the fact that Eric has a rose while he doesn't, deems it his responsibility to throw Eric under the bus more than was already done on the Group Date. He opens with describing the Eric situation, while Rachel, being the coolest, most realistic Bachelorette ever, responds with...

Of course, to convince her, Iggy stretches the truth by saying Eric's comments were specifically about Rachel not being genuine (which, based on what we saw anyway, isn't true).
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Старый 16.06.2017, 06:51   #334
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However, when confronting Eric later—"like an adult" as he put it—he said Rachel specifically asked who made those statements (as though he opened with the statements and not who made them), and that he answered Eric. Of course, this is simply not true, as we JUST saw him open the conversation, where he LED with his reservations about Eric. Not very "adult"-like to me. Also note how Iggy too brings up Eric's "growth"...

Sounds an awful lot like Iggy and Lee have had a discussion about the ways in which their dear, beloved Eric can "grow", doesn't it?

Again, like I said at Flare, there are few things more deeply irritating than being treated like a subordinate by your equal. It's annoying when anyone inserts themselves and their opinions in your private conversation, à la Iggy, or when someone passively aggressively tells you about how much "potential" you have, à la Lee. What place do Iggy and Lee have telling Eric the ways in which he should "grow"? If you don't mesh with a person you're forced to live with, as Blake E should've done with Lucas, just avoid them and mind your own damn business.

You guys know by now I am always careful to observe the where-there's-smoke-there's-fire rule. I realize that based on all this smoke, it is possible Eric has some maturing to do, but frankly I haven't seen that, while I have seen behavior from both Iggy and Lee that would irritate and even anger me. In fact, I've found Eric's responses to Iggy and Lee to be super reasonable. And regarding his shouting later on... well, you could argue his biggest mistake is letting them get under his skin, especially since it only further incentivizes the guys to provoke and needle him. But other than that, it's safe to say I am staunchly #TeamEric.
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Старый 16.06.2017, 07:28   #335
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Finally, a fun observation! I thought it was cute when Rachel unexpectedly entered the mansion looking for Eric and the men all hopped to attention. Their reaction to her roaming freely really demonstrates how rarely it happens. (Usually the lead is seated somewhere and the contestants take turns approaching them.) I also find Diggy's facial expressions endlessly entertaining...
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Старый 16.06.2017, 10:48   #336
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Bryce:
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Старый 16.06.2017, 10:54   #337
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Dean:
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Старый 20.06.2017, 01:16   #338
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Холостячки не было всего 2 недели, но со всей драмой В такоеощущение, что уже прошел емсяц и Холостячка стала менее актуальна.
Но, тем не менее, шоу продолжается!
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Старый 20.06.2017, 01:57   #339
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AN EMOTIONAL CONFRONTATION BETWEEN TWO MEN LEADS TO*CHALLENGING TIMES FOR RACHEL AND THE REMAINING MEN*ON ‘THE BACHELORETTE,’ MONDAY, JUNE 19, ON ABC

Will a Trip to Hilton Head Island, South Carolina, Improve the Group’s Mood?

“Episode 1304” –The contentious cocktail party continues, as a frustrated Eric implores the rest of bachelors to stop talking about him to Rachel.

While most of the men are perfectly content to skip the drama, one calculating guy, Lee, deceptively steals Rachel away from Kenny for a second conversation. The two bachelors’ confrontation sets off a heated argument, totally distracting Rachel as she attempts to better acquaint herself with the other men. So she makes a decision that surprises all of the bachelors. After the rose ceremony, the remaining men leave the mansion to travel to beautiful, peaceful Hilton Head Island, South Carolina, where Rachel hopes to get a fresh start, on “The Bachelorette,” MONDAY, JUNE 19
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The men are envious when Rachel taps one man for the first date, hoping to take their relationship to new heights – figuratively and literally – as they sightsee via the Goodyear Blimp despite the bachelor’s fear of heights.
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At dinner, this man struggles to open up with Rachel and share his tragic history.* She leads her date to one more surprise – a romantic slow dance to the music of emerging country star Russell Dickerson in a special concert. But will they have a harmonious future together?
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The next day a big group of bachelors sets sail for a fun cruise around Hilton Head Island, but the men are stunned to find out that, after they land, they are participating in a spelling bee competition.

The after party becomes the backdrop for more tension between one overconfident guy and another man who tries throwing shade on him to Rachel.
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Старый 20.06.2017, 06:07   #343
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But the drama isn’t over, as two other men with unresolved issues confront one another about their behavior and both must own up to Rachel, trying to defend themselves. Frustrated by one guy’s deceptive tactics, the other man takes him outside the party for one of the most intense confrontations of the season.
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Относительно разговора с Брайаном в начале 4й серии. Мне он кажется неискренним. Рэйчел правильно говорит - он говорит слишком правильные вещи. Это как смотреть на первоклассный пикап. У него есть арсенал правильных выражений, которые он не раз использовал, и в зависимости от ситуации он выстреливает ту или иную заготовку. Больше всего мне не понравился момент
- You are too good to be true
- This is fairy-tale
- What happens when it is real life?
- Don't let it scare you
Ну типичный пикап. Не хватает только "один раз живём" для полноты картины. Очень поверхностно всё.
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Относительно проблем Рэйчел перед ЦР. Я так понимаю слова "I will be judged" (как и всё её расстройство в той ситуации) относились к тому факту, что её прессовали оставить Ли, чего она делать явно не хотела, но пришлось.
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Rachel Lindsay: Why I Was Disappointed by Lee & Kenny's Blowup — and Who Did the Guys Warn Me About?
BY RACHEL LINDSAY

I asked for a diverse group of men because I don’t have a type and I truly thought that would give me the best opportunity to find my husband. But sometimes opposites and different types don’t attract — at least when it comes to a house full of guys. I didn’t foresee how much conflict that would arise between the men, but it never stopped.
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I knew first-hand how direct Eric can be and although I appreciated it, it seemed some other guys in the house didn’t. I think it’s hard for a guy who’s usually as positive as Eric to hear people speak negatively about him and not fly off the handle. As frustrating as it was to have to focus on the other men’s gossip regarding Eric during our conversation when I felt like he and I were ready to move forward after addressing his issues on the last group date, it still didn’t compare to Kenny and Lee’s blowup that night.
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I remember how it was on Nick’s season to have an argument with another person on this journey. We’re not all here to be friends with each other — we’re here for one relationship. But when you let that anger get the best of you and I can hear you screaming at top of your lungs at another guy while I’m trying to have a conservation on the other side of the mansion and can’t focus because of your tantrum, it’s a problem!

I understand Lee cut Kenny’s time short, but the fit Kenny threw was so big it bled into important one-on-one conversations I desperately needed to have with the more patient men. I was honestly disappointed in a lot of the men that night. Yes, I only have two eyes, but if someone is on this journey who doesn’t belong, I’ll figure out that for myself even if it takes me longer than it should. It was sweet of guys like Peter to ignore that fighting and focus on me but I had already heard enough. I had Chris Harrison call it a night and went straight into the rose ceremony.
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I said goodbye to Brady, Bryce and Diggy that night because although they stood out as three of the sweetest and most earnest in the group, I never felt the romance I need in a relationship. I couldn’t have been more relieved to have a night be over all season. After all the butting of heads in the mansion, I really hoped taking the show on the road and diving into a new location would allow the guys to leave the drama behind them. Looking back that was a little optimistic of me … but Hilton Head here we come!
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Hilton Head Island is one of those special places that reminds you that you don’t have to leave the States to have breathtaking and romantic rendezvous with your significant other — or, in my case, your 15 remaining significant others. They filmed my favorite romantic flick The Notebook here in Hilton Head, and I hoped some of that storybook love would rub off on my relationships.
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