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Американский Холостяк #21 Nick Viall

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Старый 11.01.2017, 22:15   #501
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Сообщение от Cheerio@Янв 11 2017, 20:21
Заметьте, он не пытается оправдать свой выбор в пользу Корин. Мы тоже уже не первый сезон смотрим, и эти validation rose for the troublemaker уже изрядно поднадоели, честно говоря. Я правда не ожидал что они начнут её валидировать вот так вот прям сразу, могли бы хоть паузу немного выдержать. Или может от неё избавиться хотят быстрее обычного.
Мне не очень понравился этот выпуск, начало все о Коринне, концовка о Лиз, мы мамо что узнали о других девушках, кроме Дани, свидание с ней мне понравилось больше всего, невероятно милая девушка!
Коринне уже надоела, но, похоже, она не собирается утихомириваться. После этого выпуска все говорили в основном о ней. После того как допощу блог Ника, запощу то, что написала Шарлин...
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I wasn’t too nervous when preparing to hit the stage for the*breakup*performances.*But once the other couples started to*break up before us,*I couldn’t stop thinking about Liz.*All*the other women had a good time with*this (it was light, it was fun) —*even Josephine’s slap didn’t sting as hard as Liz getting on that stage.
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I couldn’t believe Liz*used our history as the material for the breakup in front of everyone. I was confused by her intentions and*disappointed. I*couldn’t imagine she thought that*was the best approach to communicating.*I wondered then, Did she tell any of the women already? Was she deliberately just trying to insight drama*with me?*I didn’t feel like her performance was*beneficial to start up the private conversation we needed to finish, and so I went into the after party with even more questions.
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Going into the after party I wanted to be able to spend some time with the other woman before diving into my conversation with Liz.
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Sitting down with Kristina, I feel like we*were able to*get to know a lot more about each other. You don’t see it, but we even snuck into the photo booth for some cute pics that evening. Jaimi*opened up about dating women, and we also talked a lot about her hometown of New Orleans.

That evening, Jaimi was someone who was*sexy, carefree and easy to talk to. She*really helped*calm the*nerves that I had built up that day.*
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Speaking with Christen,*I*appreciated*her honesty off the bat. I’m sure telling me she knew about Liz couldn’t have been easy, but this is the kind of candor I’m looking for in a partner.
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*I will admit*I was concerned that Liz*might have told*the rest of the women. It was*eating me up inside that I was keeping*this past*from everyone, but, at the*same time, I knew I owed it to Liz to speak with her first, before I shared the truth of*our relationship*openly. I’ve*made that mistake in the past.*
Once I sat down with Liz,*it was my goal to give her the benefit of the doubt*and*hear her out. I didn’t want to jump to conclusions, but I knew I needed to ask her pointed questions about her being here and how she handled the situation thus far.
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I thought back to when I decided to come back on Kaitlyn’s season — I had decided to take that risk to come back on, because I felt strongly for her. I built a relationship with a Kaitlyn and then it suddenly ended once she was asked to be The Bachelorette. I knew if I decided to come back on it would raise questions. Not only from Kaitlyn and the other men, but also Bachelor nation. However, I knew my reasons and I came in prepared to answer any questions that came my way. I was confident in my intentions, so when I was pressed I was able to answer those questions. I kind of expected the same of Liz. I respected the fact that she was willing to take a chance, even though we hadn’t spoken in months. But as our conversation continued, I wasn’t able to get a real answer as to why she was here or what changed after our first encounter at the wedding. After talking with her at length, I thought it was best for both of us that we say goodbye.
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Despite whatever connection we had in the past, the current relationship became too complicated too fast. I just didn’t see us building a strong connection, and I had 21 other women I was excited about getting to know. I’m not big on throwing out the phrase “right reasons” in Bachelor world. I feel like it’s used too often just because someone is going about a situation in a different way than you. People tend to fear what they don’t understand and in a pressure-filled environment with all sorts of personalities, it is very easy to cast unfair accusations. Saying goodbye to Liz felt like the right decision for me — and honestly, for both of us. I have respect and admiration for Liz and I really hope the best for her.
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I’m someone who likes to acknowledge the obvious and not feel like we must do or say things because it’s what we’re supposed to do. There is no denying that when you show up to be on The Bachelor, you are filming a TV show. When I decided to come on Andi’s season, I came for the experience. I thought, “Wow, this could be fun.” I told myself to keep an open mind about the possibility of falling in love, and then I did. That’s all I expected from the women, too — just an open mind. This is an amazing experience that I would recommend to anyone, but the key is to be honest with who you’re dating and with yourself. Everything else will fall into place how it should.
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Next week you’ll see me navigate how to share the truth without hurting anyone. I truly felt sick not knowing what kind of damage my relationship with Liz would leave. I know saying goodbye to Liz was the best choice, but she had left a shadow that would haunt me if I wasn’t honest with everyone. Christen knew about our past, but who else? I couldn’t continue to date these women if I wasn’t upfront with them about why I said goodbye to Liz and also clear the air about any questions they would have. I was terrified the women would think I was intentionally keeping something from them, but to be honest about the past Liz and I share, I would have to be honest about some intimate details that I didn’t feel comfortable sharing.
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Sharleen Joynt on The Bachelor: Episode 2

Just last week I said I felt The Bachelor premiere represented some sort of evolution, as though we’d all grown past a) seeing the women as characters we love to hate, and b) being shown mostly women we might love to hate. I’m not taking that back because I really do think this season’s women are an intelligent, accomplished bunch. However, this episode took a distinct step back for me. I spent the bulk of my The Morning After video discussing Corinne so I’ll resist being redundant, but my issue here is the time focusing on someone like her takes from something meaningful being shown.
Believe it or not, many saps like myself do watch this show for the love stories. Beyond Danielle M’s 1-on-1, we caught glimpses of relationships being developed between Nick and Taylor and Nick and Raven, but then those were both promptly flushed down the toilet by Nick giving that Group Date rose to Corinne.
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After all, a rose supposedly represents promise and excitement about a person. In fact, the entire premise of this show revolves around the damn flower having some sort of meaning. Thus, giving that aforementioned sense of promise and excitement to a woman who…

a) needlessly strips and has him hold her breasts in front of the other women (my issue is with the parts in italics; if she wants to get frisky, kudos to her for her confidence, but really, there are better times and places)
b) uses no adjectives to describe him or her feelings for him other than “he’s so hot”
c) interrupts several women for additional 1-on-1 time when not everyone has had time (which is just poor sportsmanship)
… is an indisputable slap in the face to every woman who might be taking this even remotely seriously.
It also unfortunately highlights that innate imbalance of power I’ve long been harping about here: in what world would women of Taylor and Raven’s substance stick around after the man they’d invested their time and energy in gave the validation they’d sought to someone like Corinne? In the real world, if they had any sense, they would walk; that man’s actions would have spoken volumes as to what he was looking for. To force these women to swallow their pride this early in the season feels really icky to me. We all know a hefty pride-swallowing is in the cards for any contestant who lasts here (Nick knows this well), but the rationalization is that they swallow their pride because they know and like the Bachelor well enough not to leave—because they’ve had time to get to know and like him. My point is, it is too early to demand this degree of pride-swallowing, and every way you slice it (including speculating that Group Date rose was a producer push), it reflects negatively on Nick.
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Старый 12.01.2017, 07:16   #517
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Look, I get that Nick’s MO is not caring what people think. Even as my friend he says I care too much what people think, and frankly, he might be right. He didn’t care what people thought while on Andi’s season, and still a bit on Kaitlyn’s, and so he might admire Corinne for sharing that trait. But on those seasons, for all his interrupting of other people’s 1-on-1 times, the times he swooped in first for 1-on-1 time, or—the ultimate sin—when he insisted on 1-on-1 time even when he already had a rose, the purpose was because HE LIKED THE GIRL. He didn’t just want time for competition’s sake or to use it to stick his tongue down the Bachelorettes’ throats. He also didn’t do it the first week, before he’d developed strong enough feelings to warrant those strong actions. I always appreciated his brutal not-caring and found it refreshing, his reasons honest. Corinne’s are neither refreshing nor honest.
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My frontrunners after this episode are…

1. Danielle M, 31: This date, when it wasn’t being hijacked by Liz’s storyline, was a much-needed respite from an otherwise drama-milking episode. I found her past with her fiancé to be utterly heart-wrenching, yet she told it with such simplicity and quiet strength. Everything about Danielle M screams “quality” and she behaves the way you wish all people would: resilient and positive while remaining unassuming and not at all entitled. She’s also gorgeous to boot.
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2. Rachel, 31: It’s not the first time a FIR recipient hasn’t gotten a date Week 1, so I’m not fooled. Rachel isn’t going anywhere for a long time, despite the fact that we saw nothing from or about her this week.
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3. Taylor, 23: Taylor is rapidly becoming one of my favourite ladies. I mentioned last week that I love the dichotomy of how sweet she comes off and what a potty mouth she has. Her simple, polite smile while Corinne drunkenly lectured the women, particularly knowing Taylor has a bachelor in psychology and master’s degree in mental-health counseling, was priceless. She’s young but seems so mature, and above all, she and Nick seemed to hit it off.
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4. Corinne, 24: I’m going to first look at the positives here. Corinne is beautiful and abundantly confident. Nick gives her plenty of validation: he called her “sexy” and said she was “a big reason why” he had had fun that day. As I said above, I think he recognizes and appreciates how she doesn’t care what the others think. This also brings attention to the fact that Nick is the first-ever lead who was a much-despised villain himself; he may not view Corinne through the same lens that another Bachelor might. (In fact, most Bachelors might be too afraid to fall for a villain to ever keep them around.) Look, I get that every season has a villain and that the show would likely be far less interesting without her. However, my main issue with Corinne is more to do with how early all this is happening; it feels unnatural, like we’ve skipped two episodes’ worth of relationship development between her and Nick, and two episodes’ worth of living, eating, and sleeping in close quarters with the other women.
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CatherineGiudiciLowe ‏@clmgiudici
I love Nick but I've forgotten that he's even in this episode. #TheBachelor

Michelle Collins ‏@michcoll Jan 9
I'm worried Corinne is eventually going to literally steal Nick, put him in her platinum vagine and flee the country #TheBachelor
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