Американский Холостяк #19 Chris Soules

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I didn't particularly appreciate some of the girls vilifying Britt behind her back for "getting married and having kids" NOT being her "ultimate dream". I mean, it's not my ultimate dream either, but I'm open to the possibility of it, which I don't doubt Britt is as well. Just because Britt doesn't want to get married today and have children tomorrow doesn't make her less "worthy" of vying for Chris' affection. Her saying "I love being single" should not condemn her. Hell, I'm beyond happy in my relationship. I am completely in love and my boyfriend makes my world a more fun, more colorful place. That said, I also loved being single. I loved first dates, the butterflies, the getting-to-know-you of it all. My point is, I was a very happy single gal but that doesn't take away from my happiness and contentment in my relationship. If anything, my having enjoyed singledom adds validity to my relationship since I wasn't desperate to be in one in the first place. That said, if Britt's disinterest in settling down any time soon is true (and it really could be a game of telephone; we didn't hear it from the horse's mouth), Britt should have just been honest to Chris' face and not claimed she wanted "like, a hundred" kids. (Похоже, что Шарлин не видит, что Бритт манипулятивна, хотя Карли была права, когда говорила об этом.)
<center></center>All that aside, I just have a hunch about Britt that she's on this show for "the wrong reasons". (I said it, so shoot me.) I've had that hunch since the first night and that hunch has only grown as we've gotten to see more of her. I feel like her wheels are always turning. Her interactions and reactions always strike me as very "saying the right thing at the right time" (вот именно, это и есть манипулятивность!); over-the-top, as though she's performing. I find her un-relatable (don't even get me started on the going to bed with makeup thing) and still don't feel like I know who she is. (Which, in Episode 5 and for someone who's gotten as much screen time as her, is saying something.) Согласна со всем, сказанным тут! :angry:
<center></center>Anyone a John Mayer fan? I know this is SUPER random, but Britt reminds me of the other girl (not the ex-girlfriend) in the lyrics for "Comfortable" (which is a gorgeous song, by the way): "She thinks I can't see the smile that she's faking and poses for pictures that aren't being taken." Listen to the song. It's a classic.

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KELSEY

Where to begin? I shared my preliminary thoughts on Kelsey and her chilling "Isn't my story amazing?" in my Flare recap. I don't take back any of what I said on Tuesday but have had time to marinate. A commenter referred me to an interview with Kelsey where she speaks of her husband. (She talks about him at 3:15) It's good food for thought. I've also thought about her tweet: “Sander’s death was absolutely devastating, but finding a way to live through it and my strength to survive is amazing.”
I suspect that Kelsey's segment was edited in a way to make it seem sinister. I do. I get the difference between loving the sound of your story and feeling proud of your resilience after you experience devastating loss. For example, Kelsey could have just been talking about having lost her will to live, and then said she found the strength to persevere. She could have been referring to that story of self-discovery and strength as "amazing". It's all too easy to crop out certain bits, add menacing music, and then the whole tone is suddenly chilling.
THAT SAID, it's hard for me to analyze this from any angle and not still consider Kelsey responsible. No one can make you say anything, and the show's been around for over a decade. Everyone knows by now that you must to choose your words carefully.
(They have a voiceover of "I love my story" but since I don't see it coming out of her mouth in this ITM I don't entirely trust it.)
I get the sense that Kelsey thinks telling it matter-of-factly makes her seem strong, but it only makes her seem cold.

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Kelsey is not the first widow on this show—Emily Maynard? Or, more recently, Juelia?—and, unsurprisingly, there's always been an emphasis on their backstories. But what I don't love is the way Kelsey uses her story in such an ego-centric way, as though it defines her as some tragic heroine. She has also said: "I was once somebody's very important person in their life." Why isn't it, "I once had someone very important in my life?", which frankly seems more appropriate? Also: "That's how I know I'm strong. Because I love overwhelmingly." Oh-kay.

Of course, I think something like this will change who you are and certainly needs to be shared with a potential partner. BUT, what gets me is that, within minutes of sharing such a heart-wrenching story, she does this:

bad transition.
You can see even Chris doesn't see it coming. She says in her ITM:
"This is exactly what needed to happen because our relationship was heading in the direction of stagnation. Because I had to tell him my story. We had to have our first kiss."
That is where she loses me completely. What does her sharing her story have to do with their relationship stagnating or their first kiss??? That is why I feel she's let her story define her. She should be able to develop a relationship with a man and share a first kiss without dropping the tragic story bomb first. The whole thing just comes off like she used her story to gain access to intimacy which is far too calculated for my liking. And then later, she is overtly calm and confident—even announcing, "I feel comfortable."—at an obviously tense Cocktail Party. That behavior just unnecessary and almost juvenile.

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Add to all that the fact that Kelsey is just not that well-liked. There are ITMs of several girls—girls who are not generally mean—talking negatively about her.

Fun Fact #2: In ITMs, the contestants know when they're being prompted to trash talk someone else. It's obvious. And therefore, it's not accidental. There's always that girl who willingly takes the bait, but usually, they resist. They crack when they're at their wit's end and the irritation is too much to bear. Therefore, it means something when there are multiple ITM mentions of a particular someone having rubbed others the wrong way. All I can say is, once again: Where there's smoke, there's usually fire.
<center></center>Kelsey's story is not "amazing." It's sad. It's tragic. It's heartbreaking. It downright sucks. Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying she should live out the rest of her life in misery. I'm just saying she should never use the adjective "amazing" to describe anything in the vicinity of her late husband's death.
All that said, do I think she deserves the terrible flak she's getting? NO. People have been tweeting that Kelsey must have killed her husband. One rabid viewer started a Twitter account in Sanderson's name. (I would link but don't want to give them the satisfaction of traffic.) That is some seriously sick shit and nobody deserves that.

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COCKTAIL PARTY
Chris arrives (notice the girls waiting) and begins to talk about Kelsey and how her story "hit home". He gets choked up and leaves abruptly.
I guess we'll have to wait until next week to see what comes of this:

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Именно эти 3 хотели бы за него замуж?
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На самом деле, максимум три девушки надеются выйти замуж за Криса. [/quote]
У меня тоже есть представление какие девушки хотят за него замуж, вот хотела сравнить...

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Ну, в кои веки парень увидел стока расивых девушек и все его хотят! :rolleyes:
Я так понимаю, что все по разному развивают отношния, одни предпочитают держаться на дистанци, другие обнимаче-целовачие, вот он из последней категории...
К тому же девушки на него просто вешаются! :ph34r: Вот Бекка не была готова к поцелую, они не целовались! Хотя она и сказала, что хотела бы его поцеловать... От девушек же тоже многое зависит, если их отвергать, то они расстроятся... :meeting:

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Да, наверное проговорилась я... :rolleyes:

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“The only thing that was ever wrong with me was my belief that something was wrong with me.” (c)

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“The only thing that was ever wrong with me was my belief that something was wrong with me.” (c)

Максимилиан

Что-то мы перестали друг друга понимать.
Если это по моей вине, то прошу прощения.

Я говорил о трёх разных тройках девушек:
- максимум три, которые хотят и готовы выйти замуж за Криса (но я думаю, что только в случае взаимной любви, именно поэтому здесь присутствует слово "максимум", придающее смысл сослагательного наклонения);
- топ-3 Криса - три девушки, которые нравятся ему больше других, и с которыми он хотел бы провести время в сказочных люксах;
- мой собственный топ-3 - три участницы, которые понравились мне больше других исключительно как участницы шоу.

Максимилиан

Не делай другим того, чего не хочешь получить в ответ.

Зачем он целуется с девушками на глазах других участниц? На групповых свиданиях, на коктейль-пати, даже в общей спальне девушек. У него совсем спермотоксикозом голову отключило?

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Не знаю, покажет или нет, промо, там есть момент как Келси смеется в кислородной маске и говорит, что она точно не хочет, чтобы ее отправили сегодня домой!
...этой девушке пора домой! :angry:
Одна из участниц АФ написала: lordy, Tierra ain't got nothin' on the crazy lady! :rolleyes:

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Сотрудница гостиницы в Deadwood, где останавливался Крис, зарегестрировалась на форуме и написала об этом:
Hey everybody!
We hosted Chris Soules in Deadwood.

He stayed in our hotel room 7 Mason Suite for an entire week. He is really a nice guy in person very humble and was really kind to all our staff!

Это историческая гостиница, она существует с 1893 года:



They had great weather in Deadwood for the entire week at the end of October. We were scared because last year we got 49" of snow on Oct 3rd!!!!!
It turned out great and the cast and crew were all a ton of fun.

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Martin & Mason Hotel will be featured on an upcoming episode of The Bachelor. The episode will feature the property as it hosts the newest Bachelor, Chris Soules’s stay in Deadwood South Dakota, while also serving as the backdrop for the always anticipated rose ceremony in the hotel's 1898 ballroom. The episode is scheduled to air Monday, February 9, 2015, at 8/7c on ABC.

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Ага, поняла, что это было сказано гипотетически, а я подумала, что уже есть такие девушки "в голове". Я пока обратила внимание на Уитни, что в разговоре с сестрами она уже сказала, что как бы готова к Крису переехать. Из остальных не знаю кто бы там с ним согласился жить, может Карли. Про Бекку мы пока очень мало знаем, может на сидании познакомимся с ней получше...Кейтлин, не уверена...но понятно, что все хотят ему нравиться и Бритт манипулирует для Холостячки...
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- топ-3 Криса - три девушки, которые нравятся ему больше других, и с которыми он хотел бы провести время в сказочных люксах;
- мой собственный топ-3 - три участницы, которые понравились мне больше других исключительно как участницы шоу. [/quote]
Это я все поняла, просто думала, что присмотрены уже девушки, которые хотят за него замуж!
Самому ему нравится Бритт, это безусловно и ему не давали с ней ИС долго, вот он и отрывается сейчас. И в грядущем выпуске будет. Меня очень интересует что повлияет на их расставание, может когда приедут к нему в штат на кукурузные поля, ей сложней будет притворяться?
Джейд ему нравится, Уитни, конечно, он мечтал, чтобы она его спасла и Кейтлин, посмотрим как с Беккой будут развиваться отношения, он терпеливо ждал когда ее можно будет поцеловать.
А вообще Крису выбрали свидания на природе, поскольку он это больше всего любит. Только Ф3 попутешествует заграницей, проведя дополнительное время с крисом. Уже недолго осталось, начинается 2-я половина шоу?

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Я думаю девушкам лучше знать как обстоят дела, чем думать, что каждая поцелованная - особенная, как думала Маккензи, когда хвасталась, что ее целовали. Все равно все потом в просмотре выяснится. Да, хочется думать, что ты особенная, но может лучше подождать и послотреть кого он будет выбирать?

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“The only thing that was ever wrong with me was my belief that something was wrong with me.” (c)

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“The only thing that was ever wrong with me was my belief that something was wrong with me.” (c)

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С неперпением жду показа, а пока послушаем музыку...

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“The only thing that was ever wrong with me was my belief that something was wrong with me.” (c)

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“The only thing that was ever wrong with me was my belief that something was wrong with me.” (c)

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“The only thing that was ever wrong with me was my belief that something was wrong with me.” (c)

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Обнаружила вот такую информацию, в следующее воскресенье будет еще один выпуск, наверное об этом скажут в сегодняшнем выпуске:
A regular episode airs on Monday, February 9, and this one was filmed in South Dakota. Chris sends home another three ladies, pinning down his final six.
The following week, fans get a bonus night of Bachelor chaos. A “Chris Tells All” special will air on Sunday, February 15, according to TVLine. A full episode airs after the Soules tell-all and this should be the episode filmed in Iowa that narrows Chris’ final six down to his final four.

Не совсем так. В воскресенье будет эпизод в Айове, а в понедельник уже ДС-я!

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Какое классное свидание с Беккой!!!
Хорошо, что она не целуется, хоть поговорили они!!!

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